How To Be Ultra Spiritual – JP Sears

Thriving Launch by Kamala Chambers and Luis Congdon How To Be Ultra Spiritual - JP Sears
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How To Be Ultra Spiritual

Thriving Launch by Kamala Chambers and Luis Congdon How To Be Ultra Spiritual - JP Sears
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 How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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How to be ultra spiritual? On this episode we are here with the guy who wears a headband… JP Sears. He has become a hit sensation because of his comedic ultra spiritual videos. JP shares how to be ultra spiritual and his definition of dogma. According to JP, we get stuck in our beliefs because we feel comfortable with them. But the quality and meaning of life is not found inside our comfort zone.

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arrow-iconOne of the challenges when we’re acting out our version of ultra spirituality, rather than authentic spirituality, is we don’t know we’re doing it. It’s hard to recognize. Because we might actually be doing the same things that we would be doing to be authentically spiritual. It’s just our “why” behind it can be very different.

arrow-iconBeing open and curious about your “why” is what’s important. In order to know how to be ultra spiritual and authentic you need to know answer to this “why.”

arrow-iconWhen we feel absolutely certain about something, that’s when we’re being most delusional.

arrow-iconHave a curious attitude and know that it is possible to lose yourself in the moment. It is possible to make a genuine connection with yourself in order to know how to be ultra spiritual.

arrow-iconLearn how to be ultra spiritual. Because when we see the cliff on the edge of the mountain, we’re much less likely to fall off the edge of the cliff that we see.

arrow-iconWe each deserve to know how to be ultra spiritual right now. So that we know what we’re actually doing and aiming for and what we’re trying to give ourselves through a given experience or practice.

arrow-iconDogma is when you believe that things are the way they seemed to be to you. Learn how to be ultra spiritual, it helps you think differently.

arrow-iconWhen we’re in a dogmatic place, we really believe our beliefs. We’re really attached to our beliefs. A non-dogmatic place is a place where we have our beliefs but we don’t believe our beliefs.

arrow-iconDogma is a psychological mechanism that we use to comfort ourselves.

arrow-iconLife is this huge mystery that we can’t comprehend. There’s not much more fearful to the human ego than mystery or the unknown.

arrow-iconDogma comforts us because it erases our awareness about the mystery of life. We become certain, rigid, and righteous about our beliefs.

arrow-iconWe become incredibly attached to our beliefs not because they’re true, but because we feel comfortable.

arrow-iconThe need to belong to a group or a tribe is one of the most basic and most powerful human needs. And being attracted to knowing how to be ultra spiritual keeps us separate.

arrow-iconWe stay stuck in our beliefs. Because at a deeper level, our beliefs represent to us the membership card of belonging to something bigger than us. That might be a religion or our family.

arrow-iconWhat if what we believe doesn’t matter as much but, why we believe what we believe? Maybe that reveals if we’re stuck on learning how to be ultra spiritual.

arrow-iconA true belief and false belief is probably just same thing. Have a true belief and learn how to be ultra spiritual. It’s just one belief will serve us better in a given moment.

arrow-iconHelping people to help themselves peel back old beliefs is synonymous with helping people make themselves more uncomfortable in their life.

arrow-iconHumans are motivated by two things:

  1. Avoid pain.
  2. Seek pleasure.

arrow-iconOur self-preservation mechanism says that the purpose of life is to be comfortable. Therefore, avoid pain and seek pleasure. Know how to be ultra spiritual and decide wisely.

arrow-iconThe quality or the meaning of life is not found inside of our comfort zone.

arrow-iconIf we never had this uncomfortable sense of emptiness that we just can’t fill up with achievements, status, money, and relationship. Then we wouldn’t be motivated to leave our self-preservation, master leap and serving and go towards more of a self-realization state of being.

arrow-iconSelf-realization, sometimes defies our self-preservation instincts.

arrow-iconThere’s meaning, mystery, lessons, and wisdom in pain. Educate yourself about how to be ultra spiritual and know the really meaning.

arrow-iconSelf-realization is synonymous with living life. We don’t need to learn how to be ultra spiritual to live to be self-realized.

arrow-iconBeing present in this moment has nothing to do with learning how to be ultra spiritual.

  • The path I take to find myself can become the path that I’ll lose myself on.
  • The very thing that will help me can eventually hurt me.
  • There could be places in your schedule that are structured to allow the structurelessness of spontaneity.
  • What you need can be different from what you needed yesterday

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TRANSCRIPTION: HOW TO BE ULTRA SPIRITUAL – JP SEARS


How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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Luis Congdon

Ready to know how to be ultra spiritual and to be spirituality better than others?

Today, we’re bringing on JP Sears to bring us lots of laughter, comedy, and deep insights. We are excited to talk about how to be ultra spiritual. So stay until the end because that’s when we really dial up the humor with JP Sears.

JP Sears, maybe you’ve seen him on YouTube with his comedic ultra spiritual videos. With over a million subscribers on YouTube alone, JP Sears has become a hit sensation.

However, what a lot of people don’t know about JP, he’s not just a comedian, world traveler and speaker. He’s also an emotional healer with an incredible voice, incredible contribution to today’s society and culture with his videos, his work, and his books.

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Kamala Chambers

Hey. Welcome to the show JP Sears. Are you ready to launch? We are excited to learn how to be ultra spiritual.

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JP Sears

I think so. I’ve got the big red button here ready to be pushed. I appreciate you Kamala and Luis having me on.

It’s a pleasure to be here with you guys.

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Kamala Chambers

Thank you so much for being here and exploring this topic about how to be spiritual without being ultra-spiritual.

I’ve had a lot of experience with ultra-spirituality in my background and in my practice. How to be ultra spiritual? If anyone’s watched your YouTube videos, they know what that means but I love to hear a little bit from you.

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JP Sears

Being ultra spiritual essentially is not being spiritual. Learning how to be ultra spiritual has nothing to do with being spiritual. It’s a looking spiritual as a way of your ego building up a sense of significance at an egotistical level and sometimes, superiority to other people. To me, that’s really what being ultra-spiritual is.

What Is Ultra-Spiritual And How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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I think one of the challenges for us when we’re acting out our version of ultra spirituality rather than authentic spirituality is we don’t know we’re doing it. We still have the adopted spiritual phraseology. We might be using the given spiritual practice. We call it a spiritual practice not, “Oh, this is an ultra spiritual boost for me. I’m going to make my ego feel gratified here.” I think that’s one of the challenges when we’re ultra spiritual in our actual life.

It’s hard to recognize when we’re ultra spiritual. Because we might actually be doing the same things that we would be doing to be authentically spiritual. It’s just our “why” behind it can be very different. We need to educate ourselves with how to be ultra spiritual.

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Kamala Chambers

Yeah. Knowing how to be ultra spiritual is so important. I love the way you’ve phrased that. It’s such an important thing to look at what the motivation is behind everything we do.

I studied energy medicine. I taught energy medicine for many years. I went into the coaching field. I was deeply immersed in health coaching in that community. Then went into a whole other Tantra realms.

There’s so much that can be this masking that we have and this going through the motions rather than actually having an experience deep in our bodies.

I’m curious, what clarifies the, “why” for you? What helps you to identify what your “why” is? How learning how to be ultra spiritual helps with that.

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JP Sears

I don’t know that I have really identified my why yet. Being open and curious about my why I think is what’s important to me. I wish I could give some kind of formula for understanding what an actual sense of certainty what our, “why” is. Knowing how to be ultra spiritual may help us with that.

Identifying How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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I go, “Yeah, I’m being genuine in this moment.” Or “Yeah, I’m just being delusional and egotistical in this moment.” I think maybe when we feel absolutely certain about something. Maybe that’s when we’re being most delusional. I’m not totally sure your views about how to be ultra spiritual.

So I think having a curious attitude, knowing that yes, it is possible. I might just be losing myself in this moment and it might be possible that I’m making a genuine connection with myself in this moment.

I think the curiosity in seeing both possibilities is what maybe keeps us open. I think when we see the cliff on the edge of the mountain, we’re much less likely to fall off the edge of the cliff that we see. I think better the cliff that we don’t see, we’re more likely to fall off the edge. And not necessarily realize we’ve fallen off the edge when we do.

I do enjoy being mindful of your true curiosity, of what I might call, “The shadow side of spirituality,” which is essentially what I call, “Ultra spirituality.” Mindfulness plays an important role in learning how to be ultra spiritual.

I also think something that maybe not a lot of us do, maybe a lot of us do. I don’t really know. But, I think a lot of us deserve to give ourselves our definition of, “What is spirituality to me at least in this moment so that I at least have a better awareness of what I’m aiming for?”

We know the term spirituality and it’s used in many different abstract ways. Knowing how to be ultra spiritual has nothing to do with it.

We deserve to define what spirituality means to us right now. So we know what we’re actually doing and aiming for and what we’re trying to give ourselves through a given experience or practice.

Knowing Dogma And Learning How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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Luis Congdon

This really makes me want to ask you about what is dogma for you? What is that? Does it contributes in learning how to be ultra spiritual? I’m just curious about that.

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JP Sears

Dogma, what that means to my delusional mind is when I believe that things are the way they seemed to be to me.

There’s some kind of Zen saying, which says “Nothing is as it seems” and to me, dogma is the opposite of that, “This is how it seems to me so that’s how it is.”

I think when we’re in a dogmatic place, we really believe our beliefs. We’re really attached to our beliefs, and I think a non-dogmatic place is a place where we have our beliefs but we don’t believe our beliefs, as much anyway.

Beliefs are important aspects in knowing how to be ultra spiritual. Trying to bypass them is probably just that, bypassing not actual connection to self.

Dogma, if I could have more thought about what that is, dogma is a psychological mechanism that we use to comfort ourselves.

Life is a huge mystery that we can’t comprehend, and there are few things more frightening to the human ego than mystery or the unknown.

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When we’re in the state of fear, we feel uncomfortable. Know how to be ultra spiritual to avoid that.  Some would say, “Real life happens outside of our comfort zones.” So that means we actually need the courage to be afraid to walk outside of our comfort zone.

If that’s all half true, that means we also develop mechanisms to comfort ourselves about this mystery of life.

Dogma comforts us because it erases our awareness about the mystery of life. We become certain, rigid and righteous about our beliefs.

A contrary to the Buddha’s wishes, we become incredibly attached to our beliefs not because they’re true, but because we feel comfortable. We feel more in control when we can believe that our beliefs are true. It gives us sense of the illusion of certainty and stability in life.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Feel Powerful

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Luis Congdon

That’s really powerful for me to hear about that. Because as you’re talking, I really reflect on parts of my life. Where I was very attached to some sort of beliefs system and how much I used that to keep me comfortable. But also how much I used it as a way for me to be able attach myself to a group and to be able to say, “This is the way and I don’t need to explore or consider other path because I’m right and they’re wrong.”

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JP Sears

Yeah. That’s a huge, huge truth. That resonates for me too Luis. I emphasize on learning how to be ultra spiritual .

What you speak to is one of the most basic and therefore, most powerful human needs which is the need to belong to a group, a tribe to something bigger than herself.

So sometimes, we stay stuck in our beliefs. Because at a deeper level, our beliefs represent to us the membership card of belonging to something bigger than us. That might be a religion. It might be our family like, “I’ll keep the same family values even if they’re killing me but at least I’ll belong. I’ll be a member of my tribe” and I think that’s very interesting.

To me, what your statement really brings up going beyond what you believe. It brings up a more important question, why do you believe what you believe. I think that’s getting a little bit more to the heart of the matter.

What we believe doesn’t matter as much but why we believe what we believe maybe has more meaning to it.

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Luis Congdon

I feel like this is really good segway to go into some of the work that you do and Kamala, go ahead and just parley right after this question too to whatever was brought up for you.

Knowing The Belief System And How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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Luis Congdon

As I hear this thing about why do we believe what we believe and dogma, I’m really going into some of my own dogmas about myself and beliefs and systems that I have that actually impinged me from being fully open to the possibilities and some of those beliefs aren’t positive beliefs.

Some of us believe we’re ugly so we can’t have a certain type of relationship or whatever it might be. We also have just our own beliefs about ourselves and it really made me curious about some of the work you do JP with helping people bring out their voice because doing that must be like peeling back an onion and taking off layers of false beliefs that we have about ourselves.

Go ahead Kamala. I hope that plays with what you were saying.

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Kamala Chambers

Yeah. I’d love to hear of more about that process.

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JP Sears

By the way, what’s a true belief and false belief is probably just same thing. It’s just one belief will serve us better in a given moment. At least I mean with a truer belief.

Helping people to help themselves peel back old beliefs is synonymous with helping people make themselves more uncomfortable in their life.

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JP Sears

It’s in a way, it can be a thinkless job. I think at the end of a good session with a client, part of them will be resenting themselves and me for the session.

They’ll resent themselves for having signed up for this session and then hopefully that resenting me, is a good sign that something was taken away.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Stay Motivated

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Some kind of old scar tissue of the psyche that was binding their life and some kind of constrictive way.  But it was comfortable because it was familiar. If it was taken away, then they’re all be that resentment if I don’t have as much comfort as I once did. If we boil human beings down to two, simple motivations, at least when we’re in a reactive state, we’re motivated by two things.

  1. Avoid pain.
  2. Seek pleasure.

Those two really boiled down to one thing; seek comfort. Because of course, pleasure is comfortable and avoiding pain is comfortable. We do that in familiar ways and I think that really serves our self-preservation instincts well. Seek pleasure, avoid pain. That’s going to take that one and that’s going to help you live a long life. Maybe not a good life or not a quality of life but it will give you more quantity of life.

I got some principle of nature that’s going to serve us all pretty well. But if we start worshiping that, then our whole life is run by this simple self-preservation mechanism. It basically says, “The purpose of life is to be comfortable.”

Like what I mentioned a while ago.

The quality or the meaning of life is not found inside our comfort zone.

Brene Brown is a wonderful author. I’ve never read any of her books but I love listening to her talks. Actually, I’ve only heard two of her talks.

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Kamala Chambers

Thanks for being real about that. Actually it was just a quote. I read this one time, right?

How To Be Ultra Spiritual – One Of The Cool Factors

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Luis Congdon

You’re just trying to take away that cool factor thing where it’s like, “Oh wow. This guy knows Brene Brown. He’s probably read all her books,” then you’re like, “No. I read like a quote but I read it a bunch of times.”

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JP Sears

I know.

Brene Brown, she’s authored 12 books. I haven’t read any of them but one quote that’s somewhere in one of her books I’ve never read is a beautiful quote. It says something on the lines of, “He or she who is willing to be the most uncomfortable is not only the bravest but rises the highest.”

What, “rises the highest” means to me is not some shallow sense of achievement or status. To me, it’s about meaning rises the highest into a sense of meaning in their life. We can’t do that when we’re bound in the old scar tissue beliefs. Such beliefs are nothing but slaves to our self-preservation mechanism that says, “Seek comfort” therefore, seek pleasure, avoid pain.

When we get into a different place in life, there’s something happened where we’ve reached the pinnacle. This is typically a client I’m working with or typically people who are really going into their heart. They’ve reached a place where they no longer have satisfaction, just surviving life.

We’re going to have that kind of satisfaction for a few decades but eventually, we reach a beautiful place of feeling this horrendous sense of emptiness in life and I think that’s a beautiful place because it’s our savior.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Avoid The Sense of Emptiness

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JP Sears

If we never had this uncomfortable sense of emptiness that we just can’t fill up with achievements, status, money, and relationship. Then we wouldn’t be motivated to leave our self-preservation, master leap and serving and go towards more of a self-realization state of being.

Self-realization, sometimes defies our self-preservation instincts. Self-preservation, avoid pain. Self-realization, pain is there. Embrace it.

There’s meaning, mystery, lessons, and wisdom in pain.

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JP Sears

Self-realization, third eye, but our self-preservation root chakras says, “No. Death, that’s what pain will give me. It will give me potential death.”

That’s why I think a good session with a client or if you read a book that actually speaks to your heart. Then I think it’s actually normal for us to resent that thing. Because it’s our self-preservation mechanism resenting something that just took away our comfort. Then, if we listen to the gratitude, the parts of us that are geared around self-realization that are waking up like, “Okay, there’s more to life than just surviving life. There’s something about living life that I want to experience.”

Self-realization is synonymous with living life.

That part of us will have synonymous gratitude.

At this point, I’ve horrendously lost sight of the beautiful question you mentioned. However, those are my thoughts about whatever was asked.

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Kamala Chambers

Thank you for that. I’ve lost sight of it too. Thank you for that journey that you took us on.

I’m really curious about this process that most of us can get into with when we find something really good that maybe makes us really good in the moment.

Like, you find a new superfood that it gives you this incredible energy in the morning. Or you find that you do yoga sun salutation first thing in the morning and it just changes the game for you.

Then, I see this process happening that people latch onto that goodness and then, that’s where the dogma can come in.

It’s, this is the thing, this is the miracle cure. Then I used to distribute supplements, one of the things that one of the doctors is talking about is that. If you’re out in the desert and you break down and you don’t have any water and you drink the water from your engine, then that is what keeps you alive. You drink the water from your engine and that’s what helps you survive.

Then, you get back into the world and you say, “The miracle cure. Drink the engine water and you will actually be able to survive and walk out of the desert.”

So, that process gets so twisted. It kind of depends on where we’re at in a circumstance and just because it’s right for one person doesn’t mean it’s right for some else.

What is your process or what do you recommend to people to stop that in its tracks?

I know I have things that I do to stop that in its tracks but I’d love to hear a little bit from you.

Various Perspectives Regarding How To Be Ultra Spiritual

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JP Sears

First of all, thank you Kamala. I think your perspective, I judge it to be incredibly wise. I loved your views on how to be ultra spiritual.

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Kamala Chambers

Thank you for your judgment.

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JP Sears

You’re welcome. It’s probably just arrogant of me because I agree with you. So yeah, that’s a lot of wisdom about how to be ultra spiritual.

You have a beautiful perspective.

We need to remind ourselves from different angles to be present in this moment.

What you eluded to, if a given practice whether it’s spiritual practice, or nutrium practice. If it served me well 10 years ago. Then if I’m still believing it serves me well without questioning that, then it means I’m stuck in the past.

Part of me is devoted to 10 years ago instead of being present right now. To me, what’s helpful is to remind myself this reminder:

The path I take to find myself can become the path that I’ll lose myself on.

In another way, what helps me can eventually hurt me.

It’s just like someone who’s being B12 deficient. The foods their body will crave and that will make them feel really good, will be foods with a lot of B12 in them. Once that person’s brought up to balance, like, B12 is good. You don’t need to eat such exaggerated amount of those foods. But if they keep eating them, they can start to go out of balance in the other direction.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Keep Balance

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So I think the reminders that there’s a paradox. The very thing that will help me can eventually hurt me. I think that just needs a little bit of recalibration in the moment to ask myself, what serves now? This thing that served me then, like, “Oh! Thank God. I’m so grateful for it.”

It did serve me well and does it still serve me? I need to have the awareness about how to be ultra spiritual. It might still serve me and it might actually be a disservice. If I can’t recognize that it could be both. Then I’ll probably just be dogmatically stuck in the past believing that it’s helping me when it might actually not be.

However, if I can realize, “It could be helping. It could be hurting me.” Then I’ll be able to be a little bit more objective if there ever was such a thing. Discerning if this is still helpful to me or not in knowing .

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Kamala Chambers

I kind of go a little extreme with that, which may create its own dogma. Because, something that I find is that if I keep doing the same thing over and over. Or I have these spiritual rituals or even try to eat the same foods that I know are the best for me. Then I lose sight of why I’m doing it. Something I do is I don’t do the same thing every day. I never do the same thing.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Be Mindful

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Kamala Chambers

For me, routine is the very thing that sticks me in losing sight of curiosity, of losing sight of presence. That’s why I do everything I do in my life. So, I have that sense of freedom so I don’t have to be stuck in a routine. A lot of you Thriving Launchers, we support you in trying to break out of having to live life in a box. The kind of life where you have to do the same thing every single day.

I just wanted to hear a little bit from you. A little about that practice which is breaking out of the mundane or doing the same thing every day and continuing to question with that curiosity. Why we’re doing what we’re doing.

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Luis Congdon

Before JP answers, I talked to his assistant. She told me that he has the exact same schedule everyday. He eats the same foods. There is no variation in his life. I’m just kidding.

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JP Sears

It is a good life too.

The structure of routines versus the structurelessness of spontaneity. I love that you brought it up because it’s something I pay attention to. I won’t pretend that I’m in balance with it but I will pretend that I’m aiming for my balance.

I found some place of being out of balance with being unroutine. It doesn’t feel supportive to me. I feel like I need some kind of structure, which then allows me to go beyond the structure.

It’s what some artist would call, “A creative constrain.” There are some routines, not a claustrophobic. It’s cementing me in. Again, I’m not pretending I’m balanced.

Knowing The Creative Constraints And Learning How To Be Ultra Spiritual

The first roughly 45 minutes of my day is pretty structured. My assistant wasn’t lying about that part.

I wake up. I go for a walk. I do a gratitude practice, breathing practice, and that’s a structure that present day feels supportive to me. Stay in touch with that because eventually it may not and it’s weird. There are places in my schedule that are structured to allow the structurelessness of spontaneity. It’s like basically space on my schedule, which is very ironic. Because it’s like a structure to offer the structurelessness.

Then the other thing that I’ve found in my life is at times, I box myself in. I start feel like this 5 year old who’s a prisoner, and there is no time to play. It’s just light isn’t fun because the whole darn thing is predictable. There are no surprises and that is suffocating.

I’m fascinated at being on the journey of trying to find my balance and learn how to be ultra spiritual. I love that you brought it up. I’m curious for you guys. If you feel like you’re in a place of balance with lack of routine or some kind of routine, I’d be curious what your secrets are in finding the balance.

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Kamala Chambers

Yeah, it’s really interesting to know how to be ultra spiritual.

Well, Luis is definitely more a routine focused than I am. I never claimed to be a very balanced person. Like I will work intensely for 5 days and then, take a month off.

So, I’m not the most balanced person. For me, balance, it’s not always the most graceful process. If we have to swing from one direction to the other. Sometimes there’s some destruction in that swing.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Avoid Distraction

For me, I am a very structured thinker. I’m a very focused person. It’s not the routine that helps me to get that. So, someone who is not a very structured thinker, they might really need routine to get their focus.

For me, it helps me to travel to various continents and keep moving and see newness. It helps me experience different things, cultures, and foods in order to keep the structure of my mind fresh.

My success routine may not work for other people because it’s always changing. I think what it really boils down to is that we find what works for us. That’s what exactly what you’re talking about. Being so present in the moment with yourself and that might vary.

It’s not like you have to achieve presence. But being able to just listen to what is needed for you moment by moment. It maybe, you got first 45 minutes of your day has to look the same everyday. That’s what you need every single day and that’s beautiful. Like, we all have our own journey.

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JP Sears

I love it. Some of the wisdom that I’m definitely learning from you first off we’re all different.

What you need can be different from what you needed yesterday.

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JP Sears

So if you worked 5 days in a row. Then your needs for routine are very different where you need a lot less of it. I think that really reminds me of an important lesson about myself that is probably always been there.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Feel Purposeful

I was just traveling for about 3 weeks. Doing things I felt very purposeful, very important for me to commit to. I went doing these things so when I’m traveling, my schedule has breathing room in it. It’s very structured. Then, when I’m back from travel, what I’m learning is I need to account for, “I need that.” I need to swing to the other direction.

It might be a dramatic swing as you mention to find my sense of balance. Like, where I need time, where there’s just nothing scheduled. So that I can find my center of gravity again or else, I’ll just resent whatever I’m doing. I could have done that too much to learn how to be ultra spiritual.

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Luis Congdon

I was going to answer that question that I was asking because you and I are so different Kamala.

I really swing towards the laissez-faire, do whatever I feel, when I want, things will just happen, trust in the grace of God, and that kind of stuff. It’s very beautiful for me and at the same time, I noticed that I have a natural propensity to go too deeply towards that.

So, while I had gotten my AE degree, 2 years after graduating high school. Having an AE degree, I went to my parents and I was talking about colleges and I had a lot of variety of choices.

I had very good grades. I was looking at schools and one of the schools I was looking at was a highly regimented academics. It was a scholarly type of school, a private school, very small and then the other school was one where they don’t give grades. They write your assessments out for you. You even create some of your own classes that are guided by the teachers.

How To Be Ultra Spiritual And Be A Good Decision Maker

I went to my parents and I said, “I’m struggling between choosing these schools.” They both appeal to a side of me. However, I’m leaning towards a school that has the more academic regimented kind of thing. Because I know that if I don’t have that, then I probably just won’t fully take advantage of the educatio. I’ll have a harder time accomplishing the $60,000 – $70,000 that were probably going to be spent on school.

So, I ended up choosing the more regimented school. I know that with my life, for example, like, showing up for the gym, I almost make it like not an option. It’s just something I need to do. I’ve learned repeatedly, if I wait for too long, if I wait past 2 o’clock in the afternoon. It’s probably not going to happen.

I’ve learned to create schedules for some things and make sure that’s built in. I even thrive within that and going back to this creative structure really reminds me of Shakespeare. Shakespeare was someone that worked. One of the heaviest structured arts to write poetry that had all these different rules and to write stories within all these rules, language, rhymes, rhymes schemes, and language patterns.

I studied English literature. It’s a very regimented thing. Yet, some of the most beautiful pieces of art have come from that.

So for me, it’s funny because my natural propensity as a human is just to be very laissez-faire. Yet, I know that I need structure otherwise I won’t get a lot done.

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Kamala Chambers

It’s like you, thinking spirals and I’m thinking bullet points. You need more structure and I need less, which is very interesting.

You have to find what works for your mind. I’d like a really structured life because of the way I think.

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Luis Congdon

You and I really support each other too and also create frustrations for each other. Because I come with these spirals and you’re going, “Okay, give me the bullet points.”  I’m like, “I don’t know bullet points. That’s why I’m trying to give this to you.” Because I have this dream and this vision. Then she gets a headache sometimes like, “God, you just came to me with like 10 different dreams. Now, I have a hundred bullet points in my head. Now I have to lay them out for him so he understands what to do.”

It’s very beautiful and very chaotic sometimes.

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Kamala Chambers

I want to take some unless you have something to want to say JP. I wanted to just go through a couple of questions from our audience.

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JP Sears

Yeah. I’d love to do a little bit of dance with those.

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Kamala Chambers

The first question is where do you get all of your fashionable headbands?

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JP Sears

That’s a great question, probably the most important question anybody could ask.

I really only have three fashionable headbands. The main one that I use, I stole it from my ex-girlfriend. By stole, I mean I was basically given it by given. It was given to me by her if I was pretending like I know how to speak proper English.

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Right before we filmed the first ultra spiritual video back October 2014, she was behind the camera. I just by ready to go and I’m like, “Wait, I’m having this ultra spiritual video in new age. I should wear a headband. Do you have anything I could use for a headband?” So she brought this scarf out and tied it around my head and we stuck a flower in it. That’s where I got the main headband I use.

It used to be scarf of my ex-girlfriend.

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Kamala Chambers

This is great and I love this lightning around questions. We got a couple more for you.

Is it difficult for you to be more spiritual than everyone else around you?

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JP Sears

It is. It feels lonely and at the same time, you can’t spell “lonely” without “onely”. So I think it simultaneously helps connect me to more oneness by being more spiritual-sesh better than everybody else.

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Luis Congdon

People are asking, do you only drink super foods and are you also a sun gazer?

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JP Sears

I don’t drink superfoods for this reason because I’m so non-toxic. Superfoods are actually a toxin to me. So I don’t want to touch the things. Then, sun gazing, no, I don’t do that. I like to do mirror gazing.

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Kamala Chambers

Mirror gazing. Wow. God, I got to put that in my list of routines to implement.

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JP Sears
Yeah. The mirror looks way more handsome than the sun does.

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Kamala Chambers

One question I have. At what point did you become enlightened?

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JP Sears

It’s hard to remember but it was 6 or 7 lifetimes ago. I was sitting under a tree, I was feeding a stray cat and I looked deep into the cat’s eyes. In that moment, I just had an instant knowing of everything. I even knew about the unknown. I had a knowing that the unknown isn’t so unknown anymore.

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Kamala Chambers

Wow. Well then, you can’t even ask the question can you Luis?

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Luis Congdon

I’m struggling. How do I ask him anything now because he knows.

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JP Sears

And I know that you don’t know so I’m happy to give you the answer.

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Luis Congdon

Another question here we have from an audience. Is it hard to leave your house with so many people knowing who you are nowadays?

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JP Sears

That’s a good question. The serious part of me, I don’t like that word. I feel like serious about how I don’t like the word serious.

Anyway, the sincere part of me, I guess jumps on that ship. Sometimes it actually is depending on where I’m going, what I’m doing.

Hard is not the right term but I’m very fortunate that there’s a lot of people that watched my videos. I feel so grateful when people want to come up. They recognize me and want to say, “Hey,” maybe take picture. I love doing that.

There’s also sometimes where I need to be introverted. Then having a lot of external interactions and conversations with random people. It is absolutely beautiful on one hand and then like, in another dimension, I can take my attention away from myself.

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With that is kind of one of our themes of this conversation. Being balance, just means I’m in the process of learning a new balance of like, I have got to meet my introverted needs elsewhere sometimes. So that might just mean sometimes I lock myself in my dark garage and don’t leave for 3 weeks.

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Kamala Chambers

Cool. Yeah, I do that too.

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Luis Congdon

And watch Tai Lopez videos.

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JP Sears

I feel so inspired by it.

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Kamala Chambers

There’s a lot of people riding in, hoping that you’re going to start your own religion.

Have you filed the papers to do that? What’s your process?

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JP Sears

The only thing I feel religious about is being unreligious. So for me, my religion is devoted to not being religious at all. This is basically atheist and accept my religion a significantly more spiritual than atheism. It’s ultra spirituality. So by definition, it can’t be a religion, which is really liberating. It is also terrible in the sense that there’s no tax breaks.

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Kamala Chambers

Well, thank you so much for enlightening us all today and for showing up both as you and also you, the other side of you.

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Luis Congdon

I’m going to go schedule my meditation now.

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Kamala Chambers

Good.

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JP Sears

Make sure to announce that over to social media.

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Kamala Chambers

Well, let’s get a picture of you doing it.

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Luis Congdon

We’re going to have to get paid. JP, I’m going to need you to mail me one of those headbands.

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JP Sears

I would be honored. I’ll go raid my ex-girlfriend’s closet next time I get a chance to see her.

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Kamala Chambers

Was it this scarf that broke you guys off? Was that really the nail in the coffin?

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JP Sears

She didn’t say that it was about the scarf but I think it was about the scarf. I mean, to me, it was painfully obvious. She had this deep sense of jealousy about how much I value the scarf.

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Kamala Chambers

I’m like that with Luis’s dog.

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JP Sears

Feels like that with my dog as well.

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Kamala Chambers

It’s hard to compete with that love.

Hey man, thank you so much for being on the show.

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Luis Congdon

Thank you so much JP. We loved your insights about how to be ultra spiritual.

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Kamala Chambers

We’ve been here with JP Sears. You’ve been listening to Thriving Launch. Keep thriving. Keep laughing. Know how to be ultra spiritual and keep your hearts light.

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